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explore the bazaars are your e-ticket

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ride into the world of the paranoid

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strap yourself in as we traverse the

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universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

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ghosts Lost Worlds

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cryptozoology waters as well as other

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dimensions it's time to take back the

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night now your electrifying hosts of

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exploring the bizarre Timothy Beckley

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wow this is really weird out here look

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how dark it is I can't see a darn thing

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but you know I hear all kinds of

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rustling in the in the in the bushes

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back there and I've even heard a scream

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or or or two but there's no there's

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nobody here but yet I feel like I'm

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being surrounded by like some invisible

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beings when somebody has just brushed up

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against me and they seem to be big and

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hairy and my Uncle Louie isn't here so I

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don't know who it is

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it's Tim oh what a whoa what is going on

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here what what what what are all these

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like invisible beings around us I don't

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know I you you that could be me your

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there's a little too close for comfort I

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you need a shave I don't know I mean you

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know the woods are deep and dark tonight

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well I'm sure we're going to explore

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further into them as the evening goes on

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so Tim how are you doing out there in

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Jasper has the cold wave hit you like it

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has here mm well no no nothing like I

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guess what you're getting up there in in

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New York in fact yesterday and today is

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is probably the first couple of days

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that we have had where we've actually

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had sunshine and blue skies I think most

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of October has been gloomy and rainy

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I suppose that's you know perfect

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Halloween weather but for someone like

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me I like you know maybe just an

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occasional you know little blue sky and

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sunshine you know I'm a was when it

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comes to cold weather I I just I turned

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into an ice pop and and not a cherry one

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either I mean I I it's just the

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unbelievable it's you know these are old

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apartment buildings here and Manhattan

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and it's either bone-chilling cold or

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when the heat comes up you've got to go

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put on your speedos and you can imagine

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what I look like in speedos oh yeah you

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don't have to crawl into your

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refrigerator and warm up I swear but

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anyway we have an interesting program I

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I think a fascinating program ahead of

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us this evening and we're going to learn

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a lot about all these I guess in

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invisible and visible creatures that

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coexist the long side of us that I guess

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most people are just not familiar with

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so why don't you take us a little ahead

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in time and tell us about who we're

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going to be speaking this evening

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well of course Tim well we've got a two

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fantastic guests we have Jeanette law

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now Jeanette has the paranormal world

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has always manifested herself in her

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life she says that even since she was a

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small child and she thought these things

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we were you know maybe her guardian

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angels but you know now she's maybe not

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quite so sure so she's delved into

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anything that may shed light on this

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she says Alice down the rabbit hole

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adventures purse what and she says that

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she's finding answers but you know of

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course that there's there's still a lot

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to learn as she joined MUFON in 2012 and

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became an investigator with them shortly

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after that and so apart from her

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assigned investigations the majority of

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her experiences and sightings have been

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in the I got to pronounce this correctly

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the the Woodham

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national forests in the Cascade Mountain

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Range and she's also the the author of

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the book the UFO Bigfoot connection and

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she says that even though that she's

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been off of investigations for a while

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for one reason or another that hasn't

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stopped the inappropriately termed of

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paranormal from happening in her

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personal life and she says that she'll

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be hot on the trail again really soon

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now of course also with us is Don Young

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Jr now don has spends about sixty to

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eighty hours per week in the outdoors

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getting close to the many wild animals

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and just mother nature herself young as

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a wildlife specialist an expert in the

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field of outdoor survival many times

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he's been called on to follow and and

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attract animals for study or live

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capture now Don says that when he was

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started when he was a youngster started

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having strange dreams and visions he let

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me make sure that I did I get this

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correctly he began a pupil with been

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standing crow an Iroquois Shaymin and

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been standing crow saw that young was

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destined to be a powerful and then Don

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you'll have to help me with this how do

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you pronounce this a mid or middle we

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won thank you and and and and standing

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had been standing crow was was correct

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obviously so now Don is the author of

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the book trail of the Sasquatch shaman's

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journey which details Young's ventures

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with in nature's wild realm of the

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spirit world and of mysterious cryptids

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among forest among the forest or mind so

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Dom Jeanette thank you very much for

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being with us tonight or exploring the

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bizarre well you know I I have a feeling

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that I'm in the middle of an episode of

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Wild Kingdom very wild

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kingdom and you know that I want to

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start out by asking you a couple of

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questions how did you meet a Bigfoot or

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maybe I should ask how did you get all

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wrapped up in in the in the paranormal

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here you know I'm really not sure how

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that all happened I know that I've been

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psychic as a child and I I went to

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parochial school and so forth and they

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they noticed that I was different I know

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that I was I was born with a veil that's

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another thing and I think the a great

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deal what happened after I joined a

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secret society and I performed a ritual

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as was what was requested and lo and

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behold later what I surmised with it was

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that it was an initiation ritual and

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then all of it broke loose I mean in a

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major way after that I would ask you

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what the secret society was but then it

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wouldn't be secret I guess but reveal as

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much as you reveal as much as you can

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that to our listeners it actually it was

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with the Rosicrucian Society oh yes and

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right and then when I when I did this

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what happened was that I started

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performing this and I heard and and all

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the doors and windows were closed we

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lived in a new complex at the time it

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was an apartment so the seals were all

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good on the doors and I heard a very

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loud noise in the corner of the room and

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it was a humming and it's almost sounded

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like my head was inside of a beehive and

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later Holliday got the results of the

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ritual and they said that they weren't

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you know they weren't very graphic but

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they said that those were the sounds of

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the universe and actually I've heard

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sounds of Saturn and in sounds of the

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earth and so forth but he I would bet

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described that as the sound the humming

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sound that people say was a UFO and at

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the time of performing

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ritual I was I was in my nightgown which

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was heavy

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it was fattening was flannel lined and

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like I said all the doors were closed it

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was a very calm evening and a very

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strong wind came through and my gown

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slapped against the couch that outlined

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my form I had a candle burning the flame

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was a foot long or longer and it pointed

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to me wherever I moved in the room very

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much like a compass needle I had on the

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table a double terminated crystal on the

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table it and it was surrounded in a band

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of silver with a cabochon garnet on top

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of it and the crystal glowed bright red

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and then that's what happened at the end

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of it and that said well that sounds

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like it would have been a pretty

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positive experience wouldn't you say I

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mean it's doesn't sound too nefarious

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well it was everything that followed it

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afterwards with the shadow people the

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doorways opening up the lighted doorways

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opening up an apartment the behavior of

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my children the odors the color changes

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the orbs manifesting them the chandelier

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swinging above the dinner table all the

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other stuff and then and every time I

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had a question all I had to do was

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thinking at this time I was starting to

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go into college I was in the very

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beginnings of it and I just thought of

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something that what what word should I

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use here and I developed this voluminous

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vocabulary and and all of you know any

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like I said anything I wanted to know it

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just came to me but then again the I had

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to pay the price you know and then I had

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other issues that I was trying to

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understand why all of this negativity

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and my my children's behavior they were

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terrified

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after this they saw people going out in

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and out of these doorways that opened up

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we were sitting on her bed saw a

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doorways open up my husband saw them

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gigantic or above our beds it was blue

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and it took the whole width of the

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queen-size bed

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there are kept reacted to these things

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the temperature changes in the apartment

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you know I to me those weren't possible

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you you you've had a multiplicity of

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things going on now when you say a

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doorway or portal opened what was on the

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other side did you ever venture in or

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didn't want anyone ever tried to snatch

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you and take you to this other place

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well no but you know we're over the

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years I have ended up in a different

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position on the bed we did what

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afterwards when we moved I had 3 Gray's

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and there were circumstances that

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happened in that condominium as a result

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of that physical changes that happened

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in there as well but yeah but you okay

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now you said that when you were younger

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when you were a child that you also had

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experience it's obviously not quite as

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intense as as these later ones that you

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you attribute to them to your guardian

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angels what what do you see I mean you

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were you seeing like you know ghostly

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figures or what exactly it it's really

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rather strange it's a film of like the

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Bigfoot experience but there were more

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there they were more pleasant well you

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know I always knew where my parents hid

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their money I seemed to know about their

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conversations I knew where my Easter

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things were hidden because it's strange

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I saw I was fully awake and I saw an

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eight-foot rabbit in

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and it looked like a person in a costume

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coming down the hallway hiding my Easter

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basket in the heater closet and then

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hopped out down the hallway and then I

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heard the front door and I ran after it

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and I ran all the way around the yard

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and then I came back in the house

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looking my parents bedroom they were

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sound asleep and they're amazed that I

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knew where my Easter basket was and they

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wanted to know why and I said well that

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Easter rabbit put it in that closet they

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looked at me baffled and then I know

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with no things I told my father you know

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he'd be out there and he got a brand-new

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car and I said well your car's gonna get

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stolen tonight I know and then and then

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so he was angry at me the next morning

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but didn't I tell him and I said what do

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you mean I told you and his his car was

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stolen that night you know and I I would

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just know things and my grandmother you

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know was going to board a plane and it

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was her dream trip she wanted to travel

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to Jerusalem so the whole family chipped

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in on it and I had a dream and I I told

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him you know in the airplane that she

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was going to go down and she wouldn't be

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able to communicate with anybody on

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board the plane and I tried to call her

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and my family told me not to bother her

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and so everything happened just the way

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I told them and my sister boyfriend I

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said is it gonna come down this street

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when he comes to pick you up she said

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yes I said he's going to be involved in

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an accident and she tried to call him

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immediately well now could you tell in

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it in advance whether a particular event

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was was going to be a positive or

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whether it was going to be a negative

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thing and okay just speak just a little

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bit louder

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but yet tell us about you know what what

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were the energies behind all of this I I

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don't know I really don't know and and

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and generally the information that I was

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given with the exception of the rabbit

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was all pretty nice

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and I think for me it may have been a

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warning something it was more like

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prophecy because to me the purpose of

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prophecies to avoid an outcome something

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negative so you have people telling you

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you know what's going to happen but you

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know a lot of people you know it's this

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is difficult for them to believe or let

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them do well now you had a variety of

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entities that you you've described we're

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were they all from the same place or

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where there was there a what's the word

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I'm looking for coordination between all

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of them I mean that you know would yang

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was thinking I I don't know I have no

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idea because what I've seen is I have

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seen UFOs I've seen about five different

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styles of ships but these beings I have

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seen grace shadow people and I actually

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photographed a reptilian and and III

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don't know if there's a relationship I'm

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led to believe that there is a

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relationship between Grace and

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reptilians and okay can you give us a

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description of what the reptilian looked

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like yeah actually I have two the first

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one was when I was after I did that

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initiation in the apartment and all of

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these things were going on I even

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captured an image in a crystal of a man

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in a sports jacket if you can believe

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that and I threw it out but I earned a

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reversal candle and I have also have to

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mention too about a man I met whose eyes

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turned black but anyway I bet burnt a

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reversal candle which is supposed to

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reverse the situation the house needs to

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be peaceful you need to pray diligently

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for in for seven days while this candle

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burns and then so

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I did that and in the meantime I was

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contacting a Unitarian Church and tried

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to to try and figure out everything was

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going on and so anyway the candle

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completely burnt down I went to this

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woman's house for a meeting and then so

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she asked me if I looked at the wax and

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of course I went I burnt this candle was

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in a large glass ashtray on my desk and

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it would start walking across my desk at

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one o'clock in the morning and I was say

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that again

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it started walking across my desk by the

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what the wax did they know the ashtray

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that the wax was oh oh

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same day go okay go ahead and then and

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then so I said no I hadn't looked at the

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wax because over that period of time I

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kept wanting to replace the lightbulbs

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in the house because the house was

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getting darker and darker and colder and

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colder to the point I mean this was like

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summertime and I could see my own breath

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and and I looked at the temperature and

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it was just fine in the house but yet it

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was cold or feeling cold and so anyway I

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took the wax out and they're almost as

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though someone pressed a signet ring in

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the wax was it very clearly defined oh

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there was a crocodile being you could

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see the mouth it was slightly open with

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the fangs and had a thick throat the

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head and the throat had scales all over

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it and there were these little ears on

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top of the head now the second time was

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when I lived in the Cascade Mountain

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Range and we had a lot of Bigfoot

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activity I've talked with the Indian

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tribes up there basically know what the

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heck is going on and the Lee hat I

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thought agree

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I can't even pronounce it like in like

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an arc avoid and and then she was nude I

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don't photographed her there and then I

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think he was nude it was a nude woman

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it was Android dimensional woman with a

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head scarf on and furry look like look

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like us or no no it I can't even

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pronounce it like apparently this is one

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of the people at the time of Eisenhower

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did these albums created these beings

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and they're they're supposedly created

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by a rapid clone process and so anyway

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I've looked this up after I photographed

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this being and had exactly the the

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physical image of one of these and then

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so when I after after I photographed I

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didn't know what I photographed because

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I'm I can sense am energy so I went out

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of the house and the very early morning

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hours and then photographed the area and

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just went back to bed and I I hurt

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really bad when I got up the next

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morning my arms and I had burns on the

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top my arms from about a couple inches

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below my elbow to my first knuckle on

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the tops of both arms and I had is this

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with is this where the being had touched

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you maybe or I don't I think I may have

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been a radiation burn from the area and

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photographing this thing I don't know

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but this is all and dad

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so where were it where's the picture

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today it's it's very bad I drew a

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picture of it because of the pixels and

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it I got you are and then it's very dark

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and because I usually need some sort of

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background light on when I photograph

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these things anyway and I had it so you

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do this out of regular occasion well at

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the time at the time I did and then and

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then in the same area I was also called

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out it at another time and I got it

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actually I they validated a picture of a

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reptilian a reptilian I took

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an intelligence analyst analyzed the

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photo and authenticated it and it's um I

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just have the a picture of this thing

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from the throat up and it has the broad

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flat nose with scales all over the face

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well we've got a break we've got a break

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coming up and I must say that this is

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all very bizarre but then you are

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listening to exploring the bizarre and

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and we should be back in just a few

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minutes with a continuing conversation

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on a very engrossing cover now back to

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exploring the bizarre with two of the

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most electrifying researchers in the

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Paranoid your hosts Timothy effectively

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and to Swift's and welcome back to

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exploring the bizarre I want to bring a

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Don Young junior into the conversation

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Don thank you for being with us tonight

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it's it's a real pleasure to have you

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thank you for having me well now are

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like like Jeanette you started having

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experiences at a pretty young age

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yourself am I right on that yeah yeah

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since I was a young boy I was plagued

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with visions and dreams about large

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man-like beasts covered in hair family

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illnesses even deaths to come it was

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because of these dreams and strange

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visions that a family friend in been

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spending crow began to teach me the ways

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of the Midland and as the years passed

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these dreams and visions started to

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become physical reality where I began

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see this creature or creatures afield

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fine tract beds and other forms of

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habitation that made me question even my

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own sanity as the years you know

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continued to roll

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I and sightings or encounters of these

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mysterious forest creatures became

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common to me I sought out different

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organizations for answers but some of

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the people in these organizations didn't

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share native beliefs then often followed

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a closed-minded path of flesh only

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creatures and that that started to turn

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me away from these organizations and I

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basically went my own way with my own

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type of of research and yeah it started

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when I was adept probably only about

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five years old I started with the

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visions but when I was uh I'd say

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probably eight years old I found my

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first set of tracks in the snow I don't

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know what we called the black swamp

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where is the flat where is the black

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that's in that's in Wisconsin it's not

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named the Black Swamp

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it's just our family always called it's

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a great great when you yeah when you go

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out into it it has such a thick canopy

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no Sun can get into it so it is

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virtually almost nighttime even in day

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well so creat creatures the small and

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large could be an alerting there or

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hiding there and probably very well

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camouflaged oh very well

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yes you know in the one particular track

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I had I didn't know what it was you know

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here's a huge probably I you know and

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when you're a small kid everything looks

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bigger but to me it looked like about 18

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inches in length it had toes you know so

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I had told my grandfather about it and

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he says now it's probably some railroad

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bum that's out there well I dismissed it

510
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is that a nun been standing crow he went

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out there with me and it freaked him out

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he started screaming Windigo man bees

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let's leave so you know here's Ben he's

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an old man already and he's booking it

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through this you know crotch deep snow

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trying to get out of that swamp he was

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scared and that just got my interest and

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it even deeper as a kid the curate the

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curiosity I had then was just multiplied

520
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and you know it went into my training

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with uh with Ben he he referred to him

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later on as Jenna [\h__\h] or what is

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called in the Iroquois as the stone

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mean and how will you say giant how

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taller we were well they vary they vary

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the the physical that I've seen

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generally in my area is roughly that the

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ones I've seen not the ones I

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photographed or anything the ones I've

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seen are generally about six to seven

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feet they're not like most of these

532
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reports they're huge and bulky they got

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no they're actually quite they're

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muscular but their slender well fit you

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know this is like a extreme well-kept

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athlete just covered in hair what well

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now are they their pair you've

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ascertained that they're paranormal in

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nature

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00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:53,720
uh are they shapeshifters there's

541
00:28:59,530 --> 00:28:55,630
there's different there's different

542
00:29:06,520 --> 00:28:59,540
variants in the native beliefs they're

543
00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:06,530
both physical and energy this is brought

544
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,350
on by you know different names in the in

545
00:29:14,980 --> 00:29:11,600
the native there's over a thousand names

546
00:29:16,690 --> 00:29:14,990
between the tribes in just America yeah

547
00:29:18,850 --> 00:29:16,700
you got you you can call them

548
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:18,860
skinwalkers each called shapeshifters

549
00:29:24,970 --> 00:29:20,450
Wendigos

550
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:24,980
Jeannot squaws but the main thing is you

551
00:29:27,610 --> 00:29:27,170
know if you see one out there in the

552
00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:27,620
wood

553
00:29:32,019 --> 00:29:30,169
and it's got glowing eyes when there's

554
00:29:37,330 --> 00:29:32,029
no exterior light

555
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:37,340
that's the spirit form if you see one in

556
00:29:44,049 --> 00:29:40,850
the physical form out there you're gonna

557
00:29:46,750 --> 00:29:44,059
know it you know it's it's not something

558
00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:46,760
you're ever going to forget and people

559
00:29:51,549 --> 00:29:48,409
that say when they see one

560
00:29:54,250 --> 00:29:51,559
oh I wasn't scared they're lying

561
00:29:56,860 --> 00:29:54,260
when you see something that even the

562
00:29:59,950 --> 00:29:56,870
smallest of them you know say just a

563
00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:59,960
juvenile at six feet you see something

564
00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:01,760
out there in the woods that's standing

565
00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:04,070
upright like man and it's covered in

566
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:08,990
hair like an ape you're not gonna stay

567
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:12,880
calm Jeannette did you have a question

568
00:30:19,630 --> 00:30:16,730
well well yeah I I would like to make a

569
00:30:21,010 --> 00:30:19,640
comment on that sure bars saying that

570
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:21,020
they're very athletic

571
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:23,840
I completely agree because I've seen one

572
00:30:32,169 --> 00:30:28,970
and the other thing about the okay they

573
00:30:35,010 --> 00:30:32,179
not being able to see him I may have

574
00:30:38,769 --> 00:30:35,020
some insight on this I'm really not sure

575
00:30:41,889 --> 00:30:38,779
but okay one of the things we did at the

576
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,899
temple it was an experiment we did in

577
00:30:46,330 --> 00:30:43,120
invisibility

578
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:46,340
okay the stage was set all of us had

579
00:30:53,769 --> 00:30:50,809
three witnesses and the things we did we

580
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:53,779
looked in the mirror and while the the

581
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,710
witnesses were looking on our image

582
00:31:00,730 --> 00:30:57,919
absolutely

583
00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:00,740
disappears in the mirror again we had

584
00:31:07,779 --> 00:31:03,350
three mice's for every person that did

585
00:31:10,299 --> 00:31:07,789
this another instance was that when I

586
00:31:12,639 --> 00:31:10,309
was 17 extreme argument with my

587
00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:12,649
boyfriend and I was dressed completely

588
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:16,580
in because I was in a drill team yet and

589
00:31:21,010 --> 00:31:19,070
was in the car and he wanted me out of

590
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:21,020
course so he called an officer over to

591
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:23,809
get me out of the car the officer shown

592
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:26,480
his flashlight on me up and down and I

593
00:31:34,210 --> 00:31:29,809
was glistening yet the officer couldn't

594
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:34,220
see me and my boyfriend did okay okay so

595
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:39,110
the thing is I've gotten video things

596
00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:40,770
I've been looking at on this

597
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:47,820
and it may be due to Hertz so in other

598
00:31:57,169 --> 00:31:53,250
words if if we adjust our Hertz or if

599
00:32:00,530 --> 00:31:57,179
they adjusted like a being can come into

600
00:32:05,030 --> 00:32:00,540
our dimension changing the Hertz level

601
00:32:09,250 --> 00:32:05,040
so then that might enable us to see them

602
00:32:13,370 --> 00:32:09,260
and again because the brain is mostly

603
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:13,380
electromagnetic we we change our Hertz

604
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:17,850
level and we can't be seen well done

605
00:32:23,030 --> 00:32:19,770
well done done would you would you say

606
00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:23,040
that they they live they lived on in a

607
00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:25,620
parallel universe most of the time in

608
00:32:31,910 --> 00:32:30,030
just appear here or also most definitely

609
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:31,920
what I would I believe and this is only

610
00:32:40,190 --> 00:32:34,650
in theory and what I've been taught by

611
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:40,200
the natives is basically the the

612
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:42,240
sasquatch I'll just refer to a Miss a

613
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:44,450
Squatch is there's many names but

614
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:47,929
they're interdimensional you have a

615
00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:52,170
energy that and that's why you know

616
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:54,150
they'll they'll search forever

617
00:33:04,700 --> 00:32:57,770
they will never find a physical

618
00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:04,710
sasquatch they they come into physical

619
00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:07,950
because at one time on this earth they

620
00:33:16,570 --> 00:33:11,190
were physical now what you're getting is

621
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:16,580
the spirit form that transfers into

622
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:19,710
physical so they can feel what they used

623
00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:23,809
to feel years ago when they were all

624
00:33:29,419 --> 00:33:27,870
physical yeah it's hard to explain it's

625
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:29,429
like all right they're a ghost

626
00:33:36,919 --> 00:33:33,090
say that they're a ghost and they want

627
00:33:38,419 --> 00:33:36,929
to be physical again they enjoy walking

628
00:33:42,620 --> 00:33:38,429
through the woods they enjoy eating

629
00:33:44,140 --> 00:33:42,630
berries smelling the fresh air being

630
00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:44,150
alive

631
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:48,600
so when they're under threat then they

632
00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:50,960
just vanish back into the spirit world

633
00:33:57,030 --> 00:33:54,520
now when you say they're under there

634
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:57,040
Frette have there been incidences that

635
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:59,200
you know of where they have been

636
00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:01,600
threatened at the hunters are big yes

637
00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:05,430
yes back in back in history even the

638
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:10,270
it's recorded cave drawings in that and

639
00:34:18,030 --> 00:34:14,110
the Gigantopithecus was actually hunted

640
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:18,040
by the natives for territory the same

641
00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:20,530
with the Sasquatch which could be a

642
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,030
relative okay but as far as threat yeah

643
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:27,520
you've got other researchers out there

644
00:34:32,190 --> 00:34:29,169
in the world I don't know if they're

645
00:34:36,860 --> 00:34:32,200
true I don't know if they're hoaxers but

646
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:36,870
they say they have shot one okay oh well

647
00:34:42,750 --> 00:34:38,830
where where's the body

648
00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:42,760
yeah yeah it's gone okay now there's

649
00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:45,340
been other incidents where people have

650
00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:48,640
found tracks going right up the side of

651
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:49,470
a mountain

652
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:52,570
okay they follow the tracks there's no

653
00:35:00,330 --> 00:34:56,310
trees or anything the tracks just end

654
00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:00,340
okay no that's where they knew they were

655
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:03,700
being followed so they just transfer

656
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:06,700
into the spirit world well what is it

657
00:35:12,330 --> 00:35:09,330
what what what in general is their

658
00:35:16,110 --> 00:35:12,340
disposition towards human beings are

659
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:16,120
they friendly disposed or do they take a

660
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:18,130
human's in the caves and perform

661
00:35:24,810 --> 00:35:21,310
cannibalistic turns on the human it all

662
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:24,820
depends on the human and in the most

663
00:35:32,970 --> 00:35:29,470
part if the human is respectful of the

664
00:35:35,790 --> 00:35:32,980
outdoors of nature then they are a

665
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:35,800
helper they're a protector they're a

666
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:39,280
guardian if you're a person that's a

667
00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:41,950
goes out in the woods and gets lost and

668
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:46,300
you're respectful of nature they will

669
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:50,710
help you in some delays they'll give a

670
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:54,850
call those screech like a bird or though

671
00:36:00,620 --> 00:35:58,570
a hole like a coyote or some noise to

672
00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:00,630
draw your attention towards that area

673
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:03,100
and as you're following it you'll find a

674
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:06,640
road now if your disrespect

675
00:36:13,830 --> 00:36:09,310
out there they'll just lure you deeper

676
00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:13,840
into the woods or you're gonna be even

677
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:17,350
more lost that's the last we'll ever see

678
00:36:26,610 --> 00:36:23,890
of you well you know um I can think of

679
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:26,620
one lady in Kentucky specifically but

680
00:36:31,260 --> 00:36:28,930
there's been others who claim that I

681
00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:31,270
mean they've had you know like

682
00:36:37,890 --> 00:36:36,190
telepathic conversations with these with

683
00:36:40,650 --> 00:36:37,900
these creatures and you know I mean some

684
00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:40,660
people you know they say it's at time

685
00:36:46,350 --> 00:36:44,020
that's war just a feeling or a series of

686
00:36:49,350 --> 00:36:46,360
feelings rather than words while others

687
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:49,360
I mean they it is it's just almost like

688
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:52,450
having a mind to mind a conversation

689
00:37:00,740 --> 00:36:56,440
with these creatures in a way that could

690
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:00,750
be but you gotta you gotta realize that

691
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:04,960
they if they do have a language this

692
00:37:11,370 --> 00:37:06,880
language is not going to be known by us

693
00:37:13,830 --> 00:37:11,380
I've often wrote on messages and stuff

694
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:13,840
like that to people even made a post

695
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:16,270
about it that when these people are out

696
00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:19,180
there and they're howling and banging on

697
00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:23,860
trees and everything like that that it's

698
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:25,750
it's ridiculous

699
00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:28,090
it's like going over into a foreign

700
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,780
country you hear the the foreigners over

701
00:37:36,270 --> 00:37:33,520
there or you'd actually be the foreigner

702
00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:36,280
but you hear their language over there

703
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:39,910
and you just start to mimic them you're

704
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,510
going to be an idiot you buy roaring and

705
00:37:56,060 --> 00:37:51,520
growling like a Bigfoot doesn't go over

706
00:37:59,580 --> 00:37:56,070
well no in most cases you're you're just

707
00:38:02,610 --> 00:37:59,590
alerting them yeah something that's not

708
00:38:05,850 --> 00:38:02,620
right because I always see their oh man

709
00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:05,860
I always see that on TV some tubby

710
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:08,470
fellow will let out with a a giant this

711
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:10,810
scream and then everybody will listen to

712
00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:12,670
see if there any branches moving or

713
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:17,500
anything you know and you know it the

714
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,100
the best way to get them in clothes is

715
00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:24,160
like what I've done is you take and you

716
00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:25,240
do a cold camp

717
00:38:33,090 --> 00:38:29,590
there's no campfire there's no nothing's

718
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:33,100
disturbing the outdoors you just stay

719
00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:36,990
out there you are one with nature you

720
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:39,640
let them come to you you don't go and

721
00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:42,400
look for them they'd notice you'd minute

722
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:44,830
you get out of your vehicle you don't

723
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:47,200
have to go and you know try to find them

724
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:50,710
they've already found you so if you go

725
00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:51,730
looking for them

726
00:39:00,680 --> 00:38:57,250
now you're a predator okay if you go

727
00:39:03,620 --> 00:39:00,690
searching that's what a predator does

728
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:03,630
prey doesn't go searching except for

729
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:06,970
another grazing area you're searching

730
00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:10,330
for an individual you're a predator and

731
00:39:15,150 --> 00:39:13,420
that will make them nervous now they're

732
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:15,160
not going to stay in the physical form

733
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:21,790
very long what what sort of family life

734
00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:24,310
do they have I mean are there a groups

735
00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:28,120
of them are there well in in the

736
00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:30,700
physical in a physical form the very

737
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:35,320
very few that are left that are in the

738
00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:40,720
larger tracts of unpopulated forests

739
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:43,380
like in Alaska and stuff like that

740
00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:46,890
you'll have regular almost like the

741
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:51,630
eight pods you'll have the dominant male

742
00:40:00,300 --> 00:39:57,970
most likely one female and the little

743
00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:00,310
ones until they get to a certain age

744
00:40:07,340 --> 00:40:02,830
where they leave the pod and start their

745
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:07,350
own they do not I've noticed that on the

746
00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:10,960
are the ones that I've tracked in that

747
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,880
they do not travel in a group if you

748
00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:17,200
travel in a group you're going to be

749
00:40:21,150 --> 00:40:17,800
found

750
00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:21,160
you leave trails you leave stomp down

751
00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:25,720
areas their individual foragers people

752
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:27,220
that say oh I've seen a whole line of

753
00:40:33,299 --> 00:40:30,910
them going no if that was the case

754
00:40:36,750 --> 00:40:33,309
you'd be able to track him anywhere now

755
00:40:40,319 --> 00:40:36,760
I have most of your encounters and

756
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:40,329
sightings been in Wisconsin yes I've had

757
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:45,930
them in Wisconsin and the Upper you P

758
00:40:54,270 --> 00:40:49,569
any any difference in the in the groups

759
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:54,280
I mean are they the same racer basically

760
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:57,970
about the about the same the ones in the

761
00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:01,359
U P I had several witnesses with me we

762
00:41:10,579 --> 00:41:05,160
all seen the entire group and then they

763
00:41:14,609 --> 00:41:10,589
they became defensive where the adults

764
00:41:17,490 --> 00:41:14,619
started to flank us on both sides so we

765
00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:17,500
they drew our attention from the young

766
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:21,849
ones and then they just vanished in in

767
00:41:28,049 --> 00:41:25,030
this area it's it's pretty much the same

768
00:41:31,049 --> 00:41:28,059
thing they're curious it's a very

769
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:31,059
curious species

770
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:33,760
I've already been treed by one because I

771
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:37,920
was doing something stupid but that was

772
00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:41,440
I've already encountered one with a

773
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:45,640
territorial aggression that was also my

774
00:41:51,299 --> 00:41:48,400
fault experimenting that's what I do out

775
00:41:54,059 --> 00:41:51,309
there as I experiment to get reactions

776
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:54,069
and a lot of times my reactions are

777
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:56,770
stuff that people do not do and I don't

778
00:42:03,029 --> 00:42:00,400
recommend it well yeah if you got treed

779
00:42:10,890 --> 00:42:03,039
then I would say yeah I'm not gonna do

780
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:10,900
that again okay now are we talking about

781
00:42:19,799 --> 00:42:14,880
are these things or at least the the

782
00:42:22,410 --> 00:42:19,809
physical aspects of them are they are

783
00:42:30,299 --> 00:42:22,420
they related to humans I mean are they a

784
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:30,309
branch of of cards you know they very

785
00:42:39,210 --> 00:42:32,770
well could be very well could be they

786
00:42:42,510 --> 00:42:39,220
are I believe a primate mm-hmm okay but

787
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:42,520
I am I'm not sure exactly if they're a

788
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:43,850
branch

789
00:42:54,490 --> 00:42:49,010
unto the Gigantopithecus or a more

790
00:42:58,530 --> 00:42:54,500
direct link to the humanoid that that

791
00:43:04,150 --> 00:42:58,540
has me puzzled when I see them walking

792
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:04,160
there is no real you know like a

793
00:43:09,340 --> 00:43:07,010
chimpanzee is lauched over completely a

794
00:43:11,470 --> 00:43:09,350
gorilla is switched over completely

795
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:11,480
there is none of that mm-hmm

796
00:43:18,190 --> 00:43:15,890
these are standing upright there is no

797
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:18,200
slouch back yes they have the low

798
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:22,640
hanging arms but you know there is no

799
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:25,310
that the smaller ones yeah there are

800
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:28,370
pretty much like the chimpanzee they can

801
00:43:32,050 --> 00:43:30,650
climb trees rapidly they can jump from

802
00:43:35,410 --> 00:43:32,060
branch to branch which I've got a

803
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:35,420
thermal of I've captured one on thermal

804
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:37,280
with a friend of mine we were out there

805
00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:39,970
and this one literally was 4 feet high

806
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:42,950
was on the ground and just like that

807
00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:44,720
jumped up into the branches and started

808
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:47,870
swinging like a chimpanzee well I mean I

809
00:43:51,580 --> 00:43:49,730
know the people that I have talked to

810
00:43:54,250 --> 00:43:51,590
who have had you know really close

811
00:43:57,010 --> 00:43:54,260
encounters with these things and I had

812
00:43:59,590 --> 00:43:57,020
noticed one in particular it was walking

813
00:44:01,480 --> 00:43:59,600
away he said well you know the this

814
00:44:04,270 --> 00:44:01,490
creature that was walking way for me had

815
00:44:07,930 --> 00:44:04,280
a butt you know it had buttocks and you

816
00:44:11,470 --> 00:44:07,940
know primates gorillas

817
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:11,480
team pansies they do not have buttocks

818
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:13,910
only creatures that walk upright and

819
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:16,310
spend all of their time walking upright

820
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,560
have a butt you know I'd say that you

821
00:44:31,230 --> 00:44:27,440
know it's it's a very good possibility

822
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:31,240
that this is related in some way to

823
00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:36,530
humans it should be a back species maybe

824
00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:39,950
even the missing link I don't know it's

825
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:41,630
it's ass interesting though that I mean

826
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:43,850
you have these creatures that are you

827
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:45,770
know obviously seem to be related to us

828
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:49,280
somehow yet they have managed to you

829
00:44:52,990 --> 00:44:50,720
know while we've developed you know

830
00:44:54,610 --> 00:44:53,000
technology and civilization and things

831
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:54,620
like that they've kind of gone in a

832
00:44:57,010 --> 00:44:56,330
different direction and like you said

833
00:45:00,820 --> 00:44:57,020
you

834
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:00,830
they're able to exist in this world for

835
00:45:06,910 --> 00:45:02,510
a while but then if they don't want to

836
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:06,920
they're able to phase out or you know go

837
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:10,310
go someplace else yeah which you know

838
00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:12,650
natal ones that are here that are in the

839
00:45:18,490 --> 00:45:15,350
physical all the time the actual

840
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:18,500
physical animal they saw there is it

841
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:19,760
there is a difference there is a

842
00:45:23,020 --> 00:45:21,410
difference between yeah definitely

843
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:23,030
definitely you've got the actual

844
00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:27,200
physical animals that are still active

845
00:45:36,220 --> 00:45:30,740
that these spirit ones will watch over

846
00:45:42,250 --> 00:45:36,230
hmm but the thing is the humans have

847
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:42,260
lost the sixth sense they haven't so now

848
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:46,510
on top of being intelligent as a human

849
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:51,410
they also have the animals instinct of

850
00:45:57,730 --> 00:45:55,490
the sixth sense so they are in a you

851
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:57,740
know fact yes they can't invent an

852
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:01,760
automobile but I guarantee if you go

853
00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:05,570
into the woods they will outwit you a

854
00:46:12,370 --> 00:46:09,470
hundred to one they are the best tracker

855
00:46:16,510 --> 00:46:12,380
the best hunter the best forager the

856
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:16,520
best hider as they've proven but a man

857
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:20,510
goes into the woods is if he's not used

858
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:22,130
to the woods they pluck someone out of

859
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:25,130
the big city and you drop them down in

860
00:46:29,650 --> 00:46:27,170
the middle of an Alaskan wilderness oh

861
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:29,660
I'll give him two days before he panics

862
00:46:46,930 --> 00:46:44,410
just run blindly into a tree are they

863
00:46:49,450 --> 00:46:46,940
responsible are they responsible for

864
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:49,460
some of these mysterious disappearances

865
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:51,050
and the national parks that we hear

866
00:46:57,010 --> 00:46:54,560
about I'm not sure you know that that

867
00:47:00,280 --> 00:46:57,020
goes back in time you've had also

868
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:00,290
witnesses that say they were abducted by

869
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:03,530
a sasquatch brought to a cave dragged

870
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:06,560
off in a sleeping bag or a tent was

871
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:09,420
grabbed and dragged

872
00:47:16,099 --> 00:47:12,480
Indian legends even go back and say that

873
00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:16,109
they raided camps and took women and

874
00:47:25,099 --> 00:47:21,630
children but it's I don't know it

875
00:47:28,190 --> 00:47:25,109
doesn't appear to be what a sasquatch

876
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:28,200
would do it appears more like what a

877
00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:31,410
Wendigo would do all right well we're

878
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,270
gonna have to stop the confrontation for

879
00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:35,280
now because we have to go to our top of

880
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:36,900
the hour break and we'll be back with

881
00:47:49,940 --> 00:47:39,510
more exploring the bizarre so please

882
00:47:56,890 --> 00:47:54,440
explore the bazaars or e-ticket ride

883
00:48:00,200 --> 00:47:56,900
into the world of the paranoid

884
00:48:04,510 --> 00:48:00,210
strap yourself in as we traverse the

885
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:04,520
universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

886
00:48:13,099 --> 00:48:08,940
ghosts Lost Worlds cryptozoology waters

887
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:13,109
as well as other dimensions it's time to

888
00:48:19,849 --> 00:48:17,609
take back the night now your

889
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:19,859
electrifying hosts of exploring the

890
00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:29,180
and we're back to the second hour of

891
00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:31,500
exploring the bizarre on Tim Schwartz on

892
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:33,990
with emits green Beckley our guests

893
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:37,410
tonight are jeanette la tulip and Don

894
00:48:44,329 --> 00:48:40,650
Young Jr and Janette we were talking

895
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:44,339
with Don in the first hour of the show

896
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:48,240
about a Bigfoot and so let's let's bring

897
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:51,440
you in about your Bigfoot experiences so

898
00:48:59,210 --> 00:48:55,200
when when did this all start happening

899
00:49:01,609 --> 00:48:59,220
with you well it it all started when we

900
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:01,619
moved out to the Cascade Mountain Range

901
00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:06,180
we're at 4,300 feet and we're living in

902
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:09,000
the middle of that like you say you

903
00:49:13,130 --> 00:49:10,650
can't pronounce it at the wanted me a

904
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,140
National Forest and if you look at the

905
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:15,119
photography you can look at hundreds of

906
00:49:19,970 --> 00:49:16,559
miles around there and there's nothing

907
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:19,980
but wooded area and it was it was

908
00:49:25,789 --> 00:49:21,690
interesting that when I when I first

909
00:49:27,260 --> 00:49:25,799
started to move out there the eye I

910
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:27,270
couldn't see the house at all by

911
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:29,130
satellite and wouldn't win register and

912
00:49:34,940 --> 00:49:31,890
then eventually I could and I could see

913
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,950
my flowerpots a foot about the ground

914
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:36,720
where I had them stored I could even see

915
00:49:43,549 --> 00:49:40,140
the the dirt on the rims and this

916
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:43,559
changed as the paranormal activity

917
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:46,319
increases places very much a skinwalker

918
00:49:51,980 --> 00:49:50,130
ranch type of a scenario I could see my

919
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:51,990
neighbors homes and I could not see mine

920
00:49:56,930 --> 00:49:54,089
my home was now totally gone on

921
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:56,940
satellite all you saw was a scrub brush

922
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:00,720
lot with no home and this persisted for

923
00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:02,530
a good many years

924
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:06,070
and then now that I've moved i've looked

925
00:50:12,930 --> 00:50:10,210
the home up again and still the images

926
00:50:16,650 --> 00:50:12,940
are being manipulated and you only see

927
00:50:19,890 --> 00:50:16,660
the home probably in year one of twelve

928
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:19,900
that I moved there that I lived there

929
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:23,680
rather and we moved out there when we

930
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:26,710
first went out there we we found this

931
00:50:31,770 --> 00:50:29,890
large stone and my husband was a ninja's

932
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:31,780
of things I wasn't even he remarked he

933
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:33,490
said my god

934
00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:36,640
Janette this is this is an altar hmm and

935
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:39,070
it was the length of the body of a man

936
00:50:43,770 --> 00:50:41,530
it was slightly higher than my waist and

937
00:50:46,830 --> 00:50:43,780
about with arms outstretched that would

938
00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:46,840
be about the width of it and then I

939
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:49,720
spoke to the Indians later the cultural

940
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:53,760
heritage person at the time and he said

941
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:56,410
based on my description of the altar

942
00:51:01,470 --> 00:50:58,240
being highly polished he said it was

943
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:01,480
definitely one of theirs he said they

944
00:51:09,930 --> 00:51:06,430
did everything at those altars and he

945
00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:09,940
said and the three buttes that we had in

946
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:12,040
the areas that they did everything there

947
00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:15,660
and I said if you're wondering why

948
00:51:22,770 --> 00:51:18,820
everything is happening to you do you

949
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:22,780
live in one of the most holy places

950
00:51:32,070 --> 00:51:26,290
which to me translates into all hell

951
00:51:34,829 --> 00:51:32,080
breaks loose yeah and and and like I

952
00:51:38,910 --> 00:51:34,839
said when we were done our conversation

953
00:51:42,050 --> 00:51:38,920
but this person went to go talk to the

954
00:51:44,730 --> 00:51:42,060
elders about what we spoke about but

955
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:44,740
Bigfoot wasn't the only thing in the

956
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:49,119
area and I agree justice creatures very

957
00:51:57,300 --> 00:51:53,410
athletic has more perfect posture than I

958
00:52:00,180 --> 00:51:57,310
could even hope to have and but we did

959
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:00,190
get more footprints that were preceded

960
00:52:05,609 --> 00:52:03,250
by more anomalies which led me to go out

961
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:05,619
there and look around and then my Ovilus

962
00:52:09,210 --> 00:52:07,510
went crazy but I described the

963
00:52:13,170 --> 00:52:09,220
footprints to describe the ground

964
00:52:14,849 --> 00:52:13,180
described a series of events dad

965
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:14,859
described describe it real quick just

966
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:16,330
exactly what an

967
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:18,130
ulis is for those of our audience who

968
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:20,230
may not be familiar with that it's

969
00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:21,850
actually a ghost box and it's

970
00:52:25,830 --> 00:52:24,070
pre-programmed with frequencies word

971
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:25,840
frequencies so every time it hits the

972
00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:28,720
frequency it does say a word now

973
00:52:33,630 --> 00:52:30,940
sometimes it is nonsensical but once

974
00:52:35,790 --> 00:52:33,640
something when it picks up something and

975
00:52:38,220 --> 00:52:35,800
it's running through it mine makes

976
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:38,230
perfect sense and my my husband took it

977
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:40,450
out of the box when we first got it it

978
00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:42,730
was nonsensical and when he pointed it

979
00:52:48,270 --> 00:52:44,680
to me it said French

980
00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:48,280
female and then we went brought it up to

981
00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:50,140
the window started describing all the

982
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:52,180
land and everything and we took it

983
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:54,310
outside and walked along the ground that

984
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,170
described the earth we were walking on

985
00:53:02,550 --> 00:52:58,480
without me even asking it a single thing

986
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:02,560
that described death in the area they

987
00:53:06,930 --> 00:53:04,750
described the Indians it apparently I

988
00:53:09,330 --> 00:53:06,940
have a lot of soldiers around me for

989
00:53:14,610 --> 00:53:09,340
some reason a lot of them are our Native

990
00:53:17,010 --> 00:53:14,620
Americans and but anyway the the other

991
00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:17,020
footprints we got know that this person

992
00:53:22,050 --> 00:53:18,580
was talking to me and there were smaller

993
00:53:26,910 --> 00:53:22,060
footprints and he said he said what we

994
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:26,920
have out here are he says we have the

995
00:53:31,860 --> 00:53:28,690
little people which sounds very Irish

996
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:31,870
and I asked him what he meant by that

997
00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:34,690
and he says well we have another being

998
00:53:43,290 --> 00:53:40,230
out here that's 2 to 4 feet tall and and

999
00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:43,300
this is I believe out of the Algonquin

1000
00:53:49,260 --> 00:53:47,560
or the Iroquois and they they call them

1001
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,270
the ANA Mickey

1002
00:53:55,410 --> 00:53:51,520
oddly enough and it sounds pretty much

1003
00:54:01,230 --> 00:53:55,420
like Anunnaki mm-hmm they are us they're

1004
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:01,240
very smaller being they are associated

1005
00:54:08,430 --> 00:54:05,440
with the Thunderbird that with [\h__\h]

1006
00:54:12,570 --> 00:54:08,440
smoke and as the consequence there

1007
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:12,580
they're considered an omen of war so how

1008
00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:15,010
are they is how are they associated with

1009
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:18,670
the Thunderbird I I don't know it was

1010
00:54:26,660 --> 00:54:22,110
very difficult for me to scrape up that

1011
00:54:29,740 --> 00:54:26,670
tidbit of information very hard I

1012
00:54:34,089 --> 00:54:29,750
scrubbed as much as I could everyone

1013
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:34,099
and mostly the sites were discontinued

1014
00:54:38,010 --> 00:54:37,369
the page was not available so forth and

1015
00:54:41,650 --> 00:54:38,020
so on

1016
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:41,660
but that's just about all I could get

1017
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:45,830
so being associated with or an omen of

1018
00:54:53,830 --> 00:54:48,770
war doesn't come across as particularly

1019
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:53,840
friendly well you know a done have you

1020
00:54:59,470 --> 00:54:55,970
noticed that they are are there an

1021
00:55:02,680 --> 00:54:59,480
intermingling of creatures I mean

1022
00:55:10,290 --> 00:55:02,690
there's a Bigfoot associated with other

1023
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:10,300
cryptids oh well you know like like the

1024
00:55:17,650 --> 00:55:14,090
friendly form of Sasquatch they won't go

1025
00:55:24,099 --> 00:55:17,660
anywhere near or they won't mingle with

1026
00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:24,109
like the the what they call it the wolf

1027
00:55:29,890 --> 00:55:27,500
man or the dog man bug man dog man yeah

1028
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:29,900
yeah they won't associated with that

1029
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:32,450
species because there's one violent and

1030
00:55:36,790 --> 00:55:34,910
there's one that's not violent although

1031
00:55:38,980 --> 00:55:36,800
there will be one hell of a battle if

1032
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:38,990
they do come across to each other or not

1033
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:41,930
a day and that would that would be the

1034
00:55:56,010 --> 00:55:52,030
I'm like I'm liking it too into special

1035
00:56:00,609 --> 00:55:56,020
effects on this one yeah we can do that

1036
00:56:03,550 --> 00:56:00,619
actually I think Peter could do some

1037
00:56:07,070 --> 00:56:03,560
just some fantastic animation along

1038
00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:10,790
so one of the questions you had about

1039
00:56:21,770 --> 00:56:17,430
the war Olman it's basically rude relies

1040
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:21,780
more on to the the Phoenix or the the

1041
00:56:28,850 --> 00:56:24,090
bird when when there would be an

1042
00:56:31,850 --> 00:56:28,860
oncoming war they would rely on the sky

1043
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:31,860
father so if the sky father sent a

1044
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:35,490
message which was either the powerful

1045
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:38,970
Eagle that would fly across that would

1046
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:42,650
mean good but if something like the crow

1047
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:46,050
would fly across that would mean major

1048
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:53,130
death and bad omen you know when I when

1049
00:57:01,040 --> 00:56:56,970
I got into of course my main interest is

1050
00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:01,050
UFOs but I knew what Ivan T Sanderson

1051
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:06,150
who was kind of the original Bigfoot at

1052
00:57:12,170 --> 00:57:09,810
the Sasquatch investigator author more

1053
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:12,180
than investigator I guess although he

1054
00:57:19,610 --> 00:57:17,010
was responsible for the Tim what was the

1055
00:57:22,490 --> 00:57:19,620
name of the the the Bing in the in the I

1056
00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:22,500
remember the in the ice oh right yeah

1057
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:24,540
well the Minnesota Iceman is what it was

1058
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:26,910
originally called right right did you

1059
00:57:33,050 --> 00:57:29,250
tell me you saw that one time oh yeah

1060
00:57:37,370 --> 00:57:33,060
yeah it it was they had taken it out in

1061
00:57:40,610 --> 00:57:37,380
the 70s in like a frozen you know like a

1062
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:40,620
tray refrigerated trailer and I saw it

1063
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:43,680
at a local mall in in Indianapolis and

1064
00:57:50,330 --> 00:57:48,480
you know I I knew exactly what I was

1065
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:50,340
looking for because I had read the you

1066
00:57:54,770 --> 00:57:52,410
know items bill you might have been one

1067
00:57:57,890 --> 00:57:54,780
out of a thousand that knew what was

1068
00:58:00,320 --> 00:57:57,900
going on well exactly because I knew

1069
00:58:03,380 --> 00:58:00,330
that there was also a replica that was

1070
00:58:05,780 --> 00:58:03,390
making answers as well but this one I

1071
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:05,790
think it was the real thing because it

1072
00:58:12,260 --> 00:58:07,770
had that smell even though it was

1073
00:58:14,750 --> 00:58:12,270
encased in ice it did not smell fresh

1074
00:58:17,210 --> 00:58:14,760
let me put it that way but it was

1075
00:58:20,059 --> 00:58:17,220
exactly the same photographs that that

1076
00:58:23,870 --> 00:58:20,069
you've seen from the original Argus

1077
00:58:27,140 --> 00:58:23,880
the magazine right exactly yeah I knew

1078
00:58:29,689 --> 00:58:27,150
Ivan I can't say all that well but we

1079
00:58:33,019 --> 00:58:29,699
used to it drive up to his place and

1080
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:33,029
just outside of Blair's town and and I

1081
00:58:40,279 --> 00:58:35,130
think that's where I probably saw my

1082
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:40,289
first a three-toed the the creature you

1083
00:58:45,769 --> 00:58:42,809
know the plaster Paris a cast he had

1084
00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:45,779
some with the five toes and some with

1085
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:48,329
the the three toes and fact I when I

1086
00:58:53,749 --> 00:58:51,359
asked him about that in a minute but in

1087
00:58:55,189 --> 00:58:53,759
those days I guess you know he had other

1088
00:58:56,959 --> 00:58:55,199
people wandering through and they all

1089
00:58:59,239 --> 00:58:56,969
seemed to have plaster of Paris cast

1090
00:59:02,599 --> 00:58:59,249
there with him and of course we all

1091
00:59:04,699 --> 00:59:02,609
thought that Bigfoot was you know a

1092
00:59:08,779 --> 00:59:04,709
physical flesh and blood the creature

1093
00:59:11,329 --> 00:59:08,789
could maybe leave behind some hair we

1094
00:59:13,219 --> 00:59:11,339
wondered why you know there was no scat

1095
00:59:17,059 --> 00:59:13,229
left in the in the underbrush or

1096
00:59:19,729 --> 00:59:17,069
anything like that and why it seemed on

1097
00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:19,739
rare occasions that we were able to

1098
00:59:30,289 --> 00:59:25,140
photograph the the creature it was until

1099
00:59:32,989 --> 00:59:30,299
I think about 1975 I was assigned an

1100
00:59:37,219 --> 00:59:32,999
article by saga magazine which would

1101
00:59:41,689 --> 00:59:37,229
have been the the similar to Argus II in

1102
00:59:46,279 --> 00:59:41,699
true but with a few more pin ups and a

1103
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:46,289
little less circulation anyway I did an

1104
00:59:51,439 --> 00:59:48,690
article and I must say it I think

1105
00:59:56,509 --> 00:59:51,449
somebody has posted it on the internet

1106
01:00:01,819 --> 00:59:56,519
on the skunk ape of the Everglades there

1107
01:00:04,189 --> 01:00:01,829
was a professor down there Osborn I

1108
01:00:06,499 --> 01:00:04,199
believe his name was who had been going

1109
01:00:09,499 --> 01:00:06,509
out on a regular basis with a team of

1110
01:00:14,420 --> 01:00:09,509
investigators and they would set up camp

1111
01:00:18,469 --> 01:00:14,430
and they even had you know cameras I

1112
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:18,479
situated around there their encampment

1113
01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:21,690
now this was long long before or

1114
01:00:26,420 --> 01:00:23,849
considerably before what I would

1115
01:00:28,939 --> 01:00:26,430
consider the pursuit of Bigfoot taking

1116
01:00:30,979 --> 01:00:28,949
on a little bit more of an academic or

1117
01:00:34,279 --> 01:00:30,989
scientific and that's probably that's

1118
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:34,289
the right word but or maybe even come

1119
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:37,410
Marshall you know approach he was kind

1120
01:00:41,239 --> 01:00:39,209
of out on his own and I don't think a

1121
01:00:44,269 --> 01:00:41,249
lot of other people were you know

1122
01:00:45,890 --> 01:00:44,279
stalking a Bigfoot or certainly the

1123
01:00:49,009 --> 01:00:45,900
skunk ape I mean that's the first time I

1124
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:49,019
had heard of the skunk but they had the

1125
01:00:54,609 --> 01:00:50,910
same problem you know they could hear

1126
01:00:57,469 --> 01:00:54,619
the the creatures creature creatures

1127
01:01:00,439 --> 01:00:57,479
stomping around and they could certainly

1128
01:01:07,009 --> 01:01:00,449
smell them and I believe these were

1129
01:01:08,989 --> 01:01:07,019
these were albino skunkman we saw some

1130
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:08,999
photographs later on that may or may not

1131
01:01:13,999 --> 01:01:11,729
have been legit but they they were now

1132
01:01:17,419 --> 01:01:14,009
buying up with the the these were almost

1133
01:01:19,729 --> 01:01:17,429
pure white and we do have a few reports

1134
01:01:22,579 --> 01:01:19,739
Tim if you remember from around Edwards

1135
01:01:25,549 --> 01:01:22,589
Air Force Base mmm these are by no type

1136
01:01:28,939 --> 01:01:25,559
of Bigfoot or Sasquatch

1137
01:01:30,829 --> 01:01:28,949
beings anyway so my first inkling that

1138
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:30,839
these things might have been a little

1139
01:01:37,219 --> 01:01:34,529
bit more of a paranormal in nature this

1140
01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:37,229
is before I knew a Paul you know of

1141
01:01:44,419 --> 01:01:41,359
course it was been out and having some

1142
01:01:47,739 --> 01:01:44,429
sightings of UFOs at the same time that

1143
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:47,749
there have been Bigfoot sightings and

1144
01:01:57,039 --> 01:01:53,130
there also of course the San Gordon who

1145
01:02:00,669 --> 01:01:57,049
has this big 1973 a flap that

1146
01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:00,679
incorporates both the UFOs and I

1147
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:03,900
remember even investigating a case or

1148
01:02:07,969 --> 01:02:05,849
talking to a witness who claimed that

1149
01:02:11,569 --> 01:02:07,979
they saw a hairy creature much like

1150
01:02:13,909 --> 01:02:11,579
Sasquatch at the the helm of a UFO kind

1151
01:02:16,819 --> 01:02:13,919
of steering it or driving it anyway to

1152
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:16,829
get back to the the skunk ape there was

1153
01:02:20,239 --> 01:02:18,809
an incident and we talked to quite a few

1154
01:02:23,209 --> 01:02:20,249
witnesses down there you know to

1155
01:02:25,579 --> 01:02:23,219
collaborate the the the story there was

1156
01:02:27,859 --> 01:02:25,589
a fellow who was a security guard and

1157
01:02:31,279 --> 01:02:27,869
somehow one of these skunk Apes had

1158
01:02:36,259 --> 01:02:31,289
gotten into the area where they were

1159
01:02:39,249 --> 01:02:36,269
parking their big 18 wheelers and the

1160
01:02:42,370 --> 01:02:39,259
guard actually cornered one of these

1161
01:02:47,089 --> 01:02:42,380
skunk Apes in the back of one of these

1162
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:47,099
huge trucks and locked the door and he

1163
01:02:50,420 --> 01:02:48,030
could hear the

1164
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:50,430
creature inside pounding around and

1165
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:52,770
trying to get out and stomping and being

1166
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:55,410
very upset about his being held in

1167
01:03:00,620 --> 01:02:58,650
captivity so anyway he called the fellow

1168
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,630
security guards and maybe the local

1169
01:03:04,790 --> 01:03:02,160
police I don't remember the exact

1170
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:04,800
details and and Ayush showed up and of

1171
01:03:10,670 --> 01:03:07,440
course they they thought he was full of

1172
01:03:12,530 --> 01:03:10,680
hooey and by that time the the creature

1173
01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:12,540
had this simmer down and there was no

1174
01:03:19,550 --> 01:03:16,200
noise coming from inside the the vehicle

1175
01:03:21,770 --> 01:03:19,560
but he opened they opened the back of

1176
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:21,780
the the trailer and there was this

1177
01:03:28,820 --> 01:03:25,410
horrendous smell that had that was a

1178
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:28,830
minute so right there I mean there was

1179
01:03:34,820 --> 01:03:31,050
an inkling that we weren't dealing with

1180
01:03:38,210 --> 01:03:34,830
just flesh and blood we were dealing

1181
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:38,220
with something that could vanish in the

1182
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:42,450
back of a vehicle like an 18-wheeler and

1183
01:03:48,860 --> 01:03:45,810
it so to this day I've come to the

1184
01:03:51,410 --> 01:03:48,870
realization that there might be some

1185
01:03:56,030 --> 01:03:51,420
Bigfoot that Sasquatch whatever II want

1186
01:03:58,100 --> 01:03:56,040
to call them that are hairy and and in

1187
01:04:02,000 --> 01:03:58,110
and out there and hiding in the woods

1188
01:04:04,670 --> 01:04:02,010
but the majority of them uh something

1189
01:04:08,030 --> 01:04:04,680
very strange going on in the

1190
01:04:10,010 --> 01:04:08,040
neighborhood I mean would Tim I mean it

1191
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:10,020
can't you you you've been able to

1192
01:04:14,990 --> 01:04:11,850
collaborate that no story similar to

1193
01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:15,000
that oh yes yes definitely but I wanted

1194
01:04:23,020 --> 01:04:18,480
to I wanted to get Jeanette's

1195
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:23,030
impressions on her experiences around

1196
01:04:31,070 --> 01:04:28,910
her home there in the the Cascades and

1197
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:31,080
what she thinks

1198
01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:33,690
you know herself I mean I mean do you

1199
01:04:42,980 --> 01:04:37,950
think that because I know in your book

1200
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:42,990
the UFO Bigfoot connection I mean do you

1201
01:04:48,860 --> 01:04:45,210
think that we are dealing with the

1202
01:04:52,990 --> 01:04:48,870
creatures that are benevolent to us

1203
01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:53,000
don't care or or what

1204
01:05:00,010 --> 01:04:57,520
oh that's an interesting question

1205
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:00,020
well if they care what do they care

1206
01:05:09,460 --> 01:05:05,210
about okay be that they have to adhere

1207
01:05:12,010 --> 01:05:09,470
to an agenda I I personally think that

1208
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:12,020
there's a symbiotic relationship between

1209
01:05:20,770 --> 01:05:17,290
them and UFOs and I think that if if the

1210
01:05:23,530 --> 01:05:20,780
beings piloting the UFOs have an agenda

1211
01:05:26,380 --> 01:05:23,540
then and they are cooperating with that

1212
01:05:28,420 --> 01:05:26,390
agenda no now there are other people

1213
01:05:30,220 --> 01:05:28,430
that that have reports and they believe

1214
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:30,230
that they're mining and so forth and so

1215
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:33,110
on and the the Bigfoot you know they run

1216
01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:35,510
people off you know about the mining

1217
01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:38,720
operations to continue but and the case

1218
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:40,910
over here whatever experience at home

1219
01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:42,650
because I'm not going to make a

1220
01:05:48,970 --> 01:05:44,660
generalization I'm just going to report

1221
01:05:55,090 --> 01:05:48,980
on what I've experienced is that we did

1222
01:05:57,070 --> 01:05:55,100
have a vortex open up there was an orb

1223
01:06:01,900 --> 01:05:57,080
and after that we have a lot of Bigfoot

1224
01:06:04,450 --> 01:06:01,910
activity including I I took a photograph

1225
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:04,460
up a footprint I was very very far away

1226
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:07,250
from businesses and so forth and so on

1227
01:06:13,330 --> 01:06:11,200
and the soil is of such a nature that

1228
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:13,340
footprint wouldn't have stayed for long

1229
01:06:19,870 --> 01:06:16,370
I'm lucky I got what I got on that

1230
01:06:23,020 --> 01:06:19,880
footprint but and well how big was the

1231
01:06:25,030 --> 01:06:23,030
footprint it was about fourteen and a

1232
01:06:29,380 --> 01:06:25,040
half inches long and about half that

1233
01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:29,390
wide so it doesn't even fit in the human

1234
01:06:42,790 --> 01:06:32,240
scope of things because our ratio isn't

1235
01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:42,800
isn't like that and but I because and

1236
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:45,710
then and then they would almost do do

1237
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:49,520
things to lure us out of the house they

1238
01:06:55,780 --> 01:06:52,810
would my husband was extremely afraid

1239
01:06:57,790 --> 01:06:55,790
they'd create such a racket out of the

1240
01:07:00,610 --> 01:06:57,800
house throwing things all around had

1241
01:07:02,350 --> 01:07:00,620
slapping on the walls and so forth and

1242
01:07:04,510 --> 01:07:02,360
so on that I said well you need to go

1243
01:07:06,730 --> 01:07:04,520
outside he he wouldn't do it and the

1244
01:07:09,310 --> 01:07:06,740
only time he did go out cyclists

1245
01:07:10,750 --> 01:07:09,320
well I was doing some work at the

1246
01:07:14,170 --> 01:07:10,760
computer late at night it was around

1247
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:14,180
11:30 and at one particular window they

1248
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:16,970
had sight of me sitting at my computer I

1249
01:07:24,670 --> 01:07:20,530
heard three raps on the window that were

1250
01:07:25,930 --> 01:07:24,680
evenly spaced and I thought well you

1251
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:25,940
know I'm not going to stop what I'm

1252
01:07:32,770 --> 01:07:28,970
doing I'm just I'm just going to ignore

1253
01:07:35,079 --> 01:07:32,780
that because you know when you're in

1254
01:07:37,450 --> 01:07:35,089
that situation you have Puma tracks

1255
01:07:39,010 --> 01:07:37,460
about a foot from your back doorstep uni

1256
01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:39,020
and they have all kinds of firearms and

1257
01:07:42,670 --> 01:07:40,760
all kinds of you know all your equipment

1258
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:42,680
you go out with and you really should

1259
01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:44,810
have somebody to cover you what cuz

1260
01:07:51,660 --> 01:07:46,430
you're carrying all this malarkey with

1261
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:51,670
you and so so anyway this was 11:35 and

1262
01:07:59,940 --> 01:07:55,690
then again the next evening I was typing

1263
01:08:04,480 --> 01:07:59,950
11:35 the same not okay

1264
01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:04,490
so then a couple nights later and on the

1265
01:08:09,730 --> 01:08:06,830
same window in the same spaced intervals

1266
01:08:12,220 --> 01:08:09,740
and it's really it's really I find that

1267
01:08:16,599 --> 01:08:12,230
interesting that the timing and the

1268
01:08:20,829 --> 01:08:16,609
spacing of the knocking but and the flaw

1269
01:08:22,930 --> 01:08:20,839
that one evening I was in the bedroom on

1270
01:08:25,420 --> 01:08:22,940
the rocking chair reading and there was

1271
01:08:27,010 --> 01:08:25,430
a wall that separated myself between

1272
01:08:30,820 --> 01:08:27,020
that in the living room which my husband

1273
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:30,830
was watching TV and again on the same

1274
01:08:39,039 --> 01:08:35,690
window not not and then we heard a great

1275
01:08:41,769 --> 01:08:39,049
Big Bang my husband was immobilized with

1276
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:41,779
fear he didn't come into the bedroom for

1277
01:08:45,130 --> 01:08:43,730
a long time before I asked me if I had

1278
01:08:48,670 --> 01:08:45,140
heard that and I said how could I help

1279
01:08:51,010 --> 01:08:48,680
but not so seeing the state he was in

1280
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:51,020
and knowing saying I was in it I've

1281
01:08:56,170 --> 01:08:54,410
learned I overcome a lot I said that's

1282
01:08:57,190 --> 01:08:56,180
it I'm just getting my equipment I'm

1283
01:09:00,780 --> 01:08:57,200
going outside

1284
01:09:03,999 --> 01:09:00,790
so anyway do you you think this was a

1285
01:09:06,490 --> 01:09:04,009
peeping tom they know what I mean no

1286
01:09:08,590 --> 01:09:06,500
absolutely well yeah we've had a lot of

1287
01:09:11,380 --> 01:09:08,600
instances without like especially when I

1288
01:09:14,289 --> 01:09:11,390
first moved out there the pants flapping

1289
01:09:18,010 --> 01:09:14,299
on the glass door and the thundering

1290
01:09:20,670 --> 01:09:18,020
footsteps on the patio but so anyway I

1291
01:09:24,490 --> 01:09:20,680
go out there in this one instance and

1292
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:24,500
and I have my camera with me and I and

1293
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:26,690
I'm I sense the energy so I take a

1294
01:09:32,860 --> 01:09:30,290
picture and I find out later on that

1295
01:09:34,510 --> 01:09:32,870
there are two orbs stacked one on top of

1296
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:34,520
the other in front of the window that

1297
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:38,000
did the knocking and that let me back up

1298
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:40,130
a little bit that third that third sound

1299
01:09:44,860 --> 01:09:42,770
we had had it sounded like a dozen

1300
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:44,870
bowling balls hitting the living room

1301
01:09:50,650 --> 01:09:47,359
floor which which is what's why he was

1302
01:09:52,059 --> 01:09:50,660
so scared so anyway I go out there and I

1303
01:09:53,769 --> 01:09:52,069
get that and it was interesting I'm

1304
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:53,779
trying to feel all the way around the

1305
01:10:00,100 --> 01:09:57,050
area with my hands and and then so I

1306
01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:00,110
find I find something again but it's

1307
01:10:04,330 --> 01:10:02,450
moved to the very intelligent they they

1308
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:04,340
move out of the walking path almost as

1309
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:08,090
if to conceal themselves and and I

1310
01:10:12,010 --> 01:10:10,130
described the height of this and the

1311
01:10:13,660 --> 01:10:12,020
width of this and where they are and of

1312
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:13,670
course you know look at me like I'm nuts

1313
01:10:17,860 --> 01:10:14,960
like usually doesn't

1314
01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:17,870
and then so we go back in the house and

1315
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:20,630
then I look at the pictures and the two

1316
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:22,910
orbs have now moved exactly where I

1317
01:10:27,220 --> 01:10:24,110
described him then they were an

1318
01:10:29,050 --> 01:10:27,230
approximate height and width and so the

1319
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:29,060
first one is it's kind of difficult to

1320
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:30,890
make out the first photograph at the

1321
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:35,690
bottom horeb at the time had very break

1322
01:10:42,310 --> 01:10:40,250
along great time great time all right

1323
01:10:45,330 --> 01:10:42,320
we'll be back in just a few minutes with

1324
01:10:48,190 --> 01:10:45,340
the last segment of this week's

1325
01:10:59,000 --> 01:10:48,200
exploring the bizarre a very fascinating

1326
01:11:05,730 --> 01:11:03,150
now back to exploring the bazaar with

1327
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:05,740
two of the most electrifying researchers

1328
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:09,040
in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca

1329
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:14,410
Lee and Taylor Swift's well you know

1330
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:16,810
we're so electrifying because we have so

1331
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:22,690
many friends we have friends on this

1332
01:11:30,300 --> 01:11:27,840
side of the curtain and we have a

1333
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:30,310
multiple number of friends on the other

1334
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:33,340
side of the curtain and we have one

1335
01:11:40,260 --> 01:11:36,310
friend at least on skype who asks the

1336
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:40,270
question how far south does reports of

1337
01:11:46,530 --> 01:11:44,080
the skunk ape go now I know there have

1338
01:11:52,710 --> 01:11:46,540
been sightings of all sorts of cryptids

1339
01:11:58,340 --> 01:11:52,720
in Puerto Rico and there is even on

1340
01:12:02,040 --> 01:11:58,350
YouTube a video in Spanish mmm about

1341
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:02,050
different encounters mainly UFOs but I

1342
01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:04,090
think they touch on some other other

1343
01:12:12,270 --> 01:12:08,080
topics in Cuba so this is going on and a

1344
01:12:18,030 --> 01:12:12,280
you know a pretty widespread basis what

1345
01:12:20,810 --> 01:12:18,040
happens in Wisconsin happens in a set

1346
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:20,820
that was on the program either the

1347
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:24,610
pennsylvania and boggy creek yeah right

1348
01:12:28,770 --> 01:12:27,280
yeah which which i watched part of again

1349
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:28,780
this afternoon because he does such a

1350
01:12:34,740 --> 01:12:32,770
good job with his videos but let's fill

1351
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:34,750
this out to both of our guests what have

1352
01:12:41,550 --> 01:12:37,650
you heard about sightings of these

1353
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:41,560
creatures are real or paranormal in

1354
01:12:49,260 --> 01:12:45,040
other further south or other parts of

1355
01:12:51,780 --> 01:12:49,270
the the world well the term skunk ape is

1356
01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:51,790
just a just a name basically when it

1357
01:12:57,390 --> 01:12:54,520
comes to the southern regions you're

1358
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:57,400
gonna have the the smaller subspecies

1359
01:13:03,690 --> 01:12:59,440
like I like I had mentioned the Arang

1360
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:03,700
pendick and in Asia and the farther

1361
01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:05,170
north you get

1362
01:13:10,229 --> 01:13:07,840
you're gonna have the bigger ones more

1363
01:13:12,209 --> 01:13:10,239
hair because when they're down in the

1364
01:13:13,530 --> 01:13:12,219
tropics you know you're not going to

1365
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:13,540
have something that's covered in hair

1366
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:15,730
they're going to be you know they're not

1367
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:17,110
going to have as much hair they're going

1368
01:13:24,419 --> 01:13:21,670
to be smaller but yeah the skunk ape

1369
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:24,429
term is just a day they live in caves

1370
01:13:32,850 --> 01:13:29,440
some of them caves trees uprooted trees

1371
01:13:35,010 --> 01:13:32,860
root systems in a rainforest it's very

1372
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:35,020
easy for them to get up high with the

1373
01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:36,730
vines and everything you know so they

1374
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:38,230
could they could live pretty much

1375
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:42,489
anywhere they are very adaptable I

1376
01:13:48,150 --> 01:13:45,370
believe also to that you know I think

1377
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:48,160
it's possible that their placement and

1378
01:13:55,290 --> 01:13:52,050
given that there is a cataclysmic event

1379
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:55,300
they're there what can survive that

1380
01:14:00,840 --> 01:13:57,730
event or more than likely can live off

1381
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:00,850
of the land to the point where actually

1382
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:03,190
in fact they're they're almost like a

1383
01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:06,489
pot or a capsule I think as our we're

1384
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:09,310
finding out our genetic material is

1385
01:14:17,390 --> 01:14:14,130
being harvested I believe that the our

1386
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:17,400
material can be put in into them and

1387
01:14:22,979 --> 01:14:20,890
they we can actually get modern human

1388
01:14:25,740 --> 01:14:22,989
out of them I mean as time goes by

1389
01:14:28,740 --> 01:14:25,750
because we've noticed a big slip I mean

1390
01:14:31,650 --> 01:14:28,750
big differences and and how we've

1391
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:31,660
evolved in a ridiculously amount of

1392
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:37,690
short time and I think that we can be we

1393
01:14:43,530 --> 01:14:40,110
be brought back through these creatures

1394
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:43,540
well you know there was that and it's

1395
01:14:46,430 --> 01:14:44,770
been a few years ago I can't remember

1396
01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:46,440
her name but you know there was the

1397
01:14:54,270 --> 01:14:49,630
major issues of veterinarian but she had

1398
01:14:58,229 --> 01:14:54,280
I guess a background in genetics that

1399
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:58,239
was participating in the the DNA

1400
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:00,640
research and I one of the conclusions

1401
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:03,210
that she came from studying this is that

1402
01:15:11,370 --> 01:15:08,400
that these things were basically human

1403
01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:11,380
you know hominid hybrid of some kind

1404
01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:14,350
that I mean had they had first come

1405
01:15:17,939 --> 01:15:16,030
about like me like maybe what like ten

1406
01:15:22,199 --> 01:15:17,949
thousand years ago but

1407
01:15:25,229 --> 01:15:22,209
now they they actually will go and

1408
01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:25,239
interbreed with currently human females

1409
01:15:29,939 --> 01:15:28,630
to keep their species going well I don't

1410
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:29,949
know about that I think I'm probably

1411
01:15:36,299 --> 01:15:33,280
spitting little human female and half if

1412
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:36,309
they ever tried that make it I think it

1413
01:15:40,919 --> 01:15:38,159
more or less has to be done at a

1414
01:15:42,770 --> 01:15:40,929
laboratory kind of setting but I think

1415
01:15:47,149 --> 01:15:42,780
it's really interesting to note that

1416
01:15:50,939 --> 01:15:47,159
okay just let's just say modern man has

1417
01:15:53,009 --> 01:15:50,949
just about four hundred cc's volume and

1418
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:53,019
they're they're they're brain

1419
01:15:58,649 --> 01:15:56,530
okay Neanderthals had eighteen hundred

1420
01:16:03,739 --> 01:15:58,659
CCS okay

1421
01:16:06,779 --> 01:16:03,749
Bigfoot is an incredible hunter and and

1422
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:06,789
okay I'm just I'm just telling you okay

1423
01:16:12,509 --> 01:16:08,650
now there's a difference now my genetics

1424
01:16:17,009 --> 01:16:12,519
say I'm pretty heavily neanderthal okay

1425
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:17,019
and and the thing is is that I have

1426
01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:21,130
definite specific abilities okay and and

1427
01:16:29,219 --> 01:16:24,760
let's say and my big push is ancestry

1428
01:16:32,399 --> 01:16:29,229
and I can okay we're talking about

1429
01:16:34,319 --> 01:16:32,409
Bigfoot being an incredible tracker okay

1430
01:16:36,779 --> 01:16:34,329
so so let's let's bring in ancient

1431
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:36,789
ancestry for a little bit there are

1432
01:16:44,459 --> 01:16:41,050
times when I can go out and track and I

1433
01:16:48,810 --> 01:16:44,469
can actually see footprints that are

1434
01:16:52,350 --> 01:16:48,820
emitted its IR light the footprints that

1435
01:16:55,410 --> 01:16:52,360
I see but basically kind of a lighter

1436
01:16:57,899 --> 01:16:55,420
shade of olive green but it's our like I

1437
01:16:59,549 --> 01:16:57,909
mean I will not see the footprint in the

1438
01:17:02,969 --> 01:16:59,559
dirt because like I said our soil is

1439
01:17:05,279 --> 01:17:02,979
very unusual very high silica soil and

1440
01:17:07,410 --> 01:17:05,289
it would blow away and a split second

1441
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:07,420
anything that was left there but

1442
01:17:14,430 --> 01:17:10,209
nonetheless I can see remaining light on

1443
01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:14,440
the ground so if it's brain is a little

1444
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:16,510
different if it's brandable bit bigger

1445
01:17:22,770 --> 01:17:19,090
and it has ancient ancestry in it

1446
01:17:26,279 --> 01:17:22,780
this might allow it to do what it does

1447
01:17:29,429 --> 01:17:26,289
to track and to use Hertz to change our

1448
01:17:30,620 --> 01:17:29,439
our ability to be able to see it at

1449
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:30,630
times or not

1450
01:17:37,190 --> 01:17:33,600
we we have of somebody who's just called

1451
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:37,200
in on our hotline who has a question

1452
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:42,210
Jeremy are you there yes I'm okay what

1453
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:43,530
what would you what would you like to

1454
01:17:48,290 --> 01:17:46,890
ask our guests okay well I had two

1455
01:17:50,510 --> 01:17:48,300
questions but I think she may have

1456
01:17:54,490 --> 01:17:50,520
answered one of them my first one was if

1457
01:17:56,930 --> 01:17:54,500
the skunk Apes would breed with humans

1458
01:17:59,120 --> 01:17:56,940
which she kind of explained a little bit

1459
01:18:02,300 --> 01:17:59,130
and my other question was do you think

1460
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:02,310
that the skunk ape Sasquatch or whatever

1461
01:18:08,150 --> 01:18:04,080
you want to call it do you think it has

1462
01:18:10,580 --> 01:18:08,160
any connection with UFOs or aliens or

1463
01:18:13,370 --> 01:18:10,590
anything like that well let's ask both

1464
01:18:17,060 --> 01:18:13,380
of our guests that you want to go first

1465
01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:17,070
aye aye what if they have a connection

1466
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:21,750
with UFOs or yes that question again I'm

1467
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:23,730
sorry I hadn't ever an eruption at my

1468
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:28,050
end and I'm all befuddled okay all right

1469
01:18:33,070 --> 01:18:30,810
if they haven't I I do think they have

1470
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,080
their connection just based on my

1471
01:18:39,950 --> 01:18:35,760
experiences and what happens to be

1472
01:18:43,490 --> 01:18:39,960
around them at the time when when they

1473
01:18:46,220 --> 01:18:43,500
manifest or they're there they you know

1474
01:18:48,890 --> 01:18:46,230
show their physical presence or or maybe

1475
01:18:51,380 --> 01:18:48,900
even the presence that in a state that

1476
01:18:54,730 --> 01:18:51,390
that we can't see them because I spoke

1477
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:54,740
about the experiments we ran on

1478
01:19:01,310 --> 01:18:59,040
invisibility and this is all okay the

1479
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:01,320
experiments we ran are all based on

1480
01:19:12,140 --> 01:19:06,210
ancient wisdom on on on in the occult

1481
01:19:14,710 --> 01:19:12,150
okay and and in my mind that is a form

1482
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:14,720
of technology it's not a religion I

1483
01:19:23,060 --> 01:19:20,970
think it is miss named so yeah I do I

1484
01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:23,070
think they're part of the UFO things and

1485
01:19:29,050 --> 01:19:25,260
I don't and my experience with their

1486
01:19:32,330 --> 01:19:29,060
odor it they don't always have an odor

1487
01:19:35,300 --> 01:19:32,340
they only did one time when they were at

1488
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:35,310
my property which time I found myself

1489
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:38,250
not being able to breathe it was in a

1490
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:41,730
10-foot radius circle and I had to get

1491
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:43,650
out of that circle in order to breathe

1492
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:44,400
and it's

1493
01:19:48,860 --> 01:19:45,690
finally went in the house we ended up

1494
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:48,870
shutting windows and the the odor would

1495
01:19:53,540 --> 01:19:50,880
move and it came in to the kitchen

1496
01:19:55,220 --> 01:19:53,550
window when I was cooking dinner and I

1497
01:19:57,169 --> 01:19:55,230
had to shut that window and then later

1498
01:19:58,970 --> 01:19:57,179
on we watched TV and it was at the

1499
01:20:01,280 --> 01:19:58,980
living-room window watching us watch TV

1500
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:01,290
and the odor was there to shut that

1501
01:20:06,290 --> 01:20:03,360
window and it was there after I went to

1502
01:20:08,090 --> 01:20:06,300
bed at night yeah it would move and I

1503
01:20:10,370 --> 01:20:08,100
would go out of the house and I would

1504
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:10,380
test and I would go out to different

1505
01:20:16,729 --> 01:20:13,110
windows or outside and and it would

1506
01:20:20,390 --> 01:20:16,739
definitely be in that template how long

1507
01:20:23,630 --> 01:20:20,400
does the odor linger Italy well I went

1508
01:20:25,490 --> 01:20:23,640
to bed that night at 10:30 and it was

1509
01:20:28,250 --> 01:20:25,500
still at the living-room window which

1510
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:28,260
based the back of her couch when we were

1511
01:20:35,060 --> 01:20:30,690
watching TV so it just watched us all

1512
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:35,070
the way around the windows that's pretty

1513
01:20:53,870 --> 01:20:37,290
obviously that's pretty ghastly but I

1514
01:20:56,270 --> 01:20:53,880
didn't we did we lose somebody Bigfoot

1515
01:20:59,300 --> 01:20:56,280
just grab somebody I think there's

1516
01:21:02,270 --> 01:20:59,310
nothing wrong there all right hey Don so

1517
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:02,280
how about you a UFOs now have you you

1518
01:21:07,310 --> 01:21:04,290
studied or read about or heard about the

1519
01:21:10,729 --> 01:21:07,320
case in the cases in Pennsylvania I

1520
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:10,739
guess going back to 1973 where there

1521
01:21:16,930 --> 01:21:14,010
seemed to have been sightings of these

1522
01:21:19,459 --> 01:21:16,940
creatures and in UFOs all in the same

1523
01:21:23,780 --> 01:21:19,469
spot around pretty much around the same

1524
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:23,790
time well my theory it's only a theory

1525
01:21:33,169 --> 01:21:29,250
on that is just like anything with UFOs

1526
01:21:39,260 --> 01:21:33,179
or extraterrestrials they basically I

1527
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:39,270
believe any way that they capture life

1528
01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:42,480
from planets they've written it's been

1529
01:21:47,689 --> 01:21:44,760
reported that they've captured humans

1530
01:21:49,310 --> 01:21:47,699
and returned them I believe the same

1531
01:21:53,300 --> 01:21:49,320
thing is when they when they come across

1532
01:21:56,030 --> 01:21:53,310
the sasquatch they they [\h__\h] up Scotty

1533
01:21:58,060 --> 01:21:56,040
and let's look him over and then send

1534
01:22:01,740 --> 01:21:58,070
them back home what well you know

1535
01:22:04,540 --> 01:22:01,750
now a Brad stager who of course is the

1536
01:22:07,180 --> 01:22:04,550
grandfather of the the paranormal

1537
01:22:09,879 --> 01:22:07,190
I remember him writing an article for

1538
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:09,889
one of our publication probably

1539
01:22:14,069 --> 01:22:12,050
interplanetary News Service report when

1540
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:14,079
we thought in those days everything was

1541
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:16,400
extraterrestrial about some of the North

1542
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:19,130
American Indian tribes how they reported

1543
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:23,650
actually seeing these Bigfoot creatures

1544
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:27,290
coming down on a beam of yeah be I would

1545
01:22:34,050 --> 01:22:30,730
say beam a light for a lack of other a

1546
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:34,060
term but there's always seemed to be

1547
01:22:41,020 --> 01:22:36,530
somewhat of a connection although you've

1548
01:22:42,609 --> 01:22:41,030
got your hard core you know Bigfoot and

1549
01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:42,619
they've got to be real and you can beat

1550
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:44,020
them off with a stick

1551
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:47,210
type of researchers those are the ones

1552
01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:52,610
that kind of glut the the TV channels

1553
01:23:00,370 --> 01:22:54,980
you know cable channels late at night

1554
01:23:01,660 --> 01:23:00,380
yeah you very seldom see a show where at

1555
01:23:03,819 --> 01:23:01,670
least I'm missing out on this because

1556
01:23:06,580 --> 01:23:03,829
like I guess I don't watch that many

1557
01:23:10,569 --> 01:23:06,590
Bigfoot programs but Tim do you remember

1558
01:23:13,149 --> 01:23:10,579
ever seeing a show there on on cable

1559
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:13,159
where the paranormal aspect of this was

1560
01:23:22,510 --> 01:23:17,360
bought in no no it's always you know the

1561
01:23:26,020 --> 01:23:22,520
physical aspect of them you know well I

1562
01:23:29,770 --> 01:23:26,030
you know one one wonders what what could

1563
01:23:31,899 --> 01:23:29,780
be the connection between the the the

1564
01:23:34,060 --> 01:23:31,909
two whether they're operating on the

1565
01:23:38,050 --> 01:23:34,070
same vibrational level which would kind

1566
01:23:43,209 --> 01:23:38,060
of be a new-age you know the description

1567
01:23:46,660 --> 01:23:43,219
which kind of frown on I I dunno now

1568
01:23:50,260 --> 01:23:46,670
John keel of course wrote about in his

1569
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:50,270
books Mothman Prophecies in the 8th

1570
01:23:55,660 --> 01:23:53,360
tower and strange mutants which we

1571
01:23:59,379 --> 01:23:55,670
published about how they were actual

1572
01:24:02,260 --> 01:23:59,389
actually window areas in different spots

1573
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:02,270
around the the country where these

1574
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:06,570
things were occurring

1575
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:09,930
more frequently than elsewhere you had

1576
01:24:15,370 --> 01:24:11,970
some spots like in Pennsylvania

1577
01:24:19,370 --> 01:24:15,380
of course Point Pleasant West Virginia

1578
01:24:24,710 --> 01:24:19,380
for a quite a while in fact I was

1579
01:24:26,540 --> 01:24:24,720
watching an Amazon Prime Seth who did

1580
01:24:28,660 --> 01:24:26,550
the you know was a guest a couple of

1581
01:24:31,730 --> 01:24:28,670
weeks ago and he has his little

1582
01:24:33,530 --> 01:24:31,740
small-town monster series and he's

1583
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:33,540
actually broken up some of his films

1584
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:36,090
into smaller episodes and he had a great

1585
01:24:42,650 --> 01:24:38,130
little episode there on woody

1586
01:24:44,270 --> 01:24:42,660
derenberger and Indrid cold and if

1587
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:44,280
anybody knows the story of course woody

1588
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:47,370
derenberger he was a sewing machine

1589
01:24:52,460 --> 01:24:49,650
salesman I think Tim wasn't he and he

1590
01:24:56,300 --> 01:24:52,470
was yeah yeah driving home one night and

1591
01:24:58,490 --> 01:24:56,310
this object the kind of this was stalled

1592
01:25:01,430 --> 01:24:58,500
just off the road and he had an

1593
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:01,440
encounter and met with I guess the

1594
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:04,050
benevolent the space beings are kind of

1595
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:08,130
human and in appearance and he had an on

1596
01:25:16,130 --> 01:25:12,450
go on going series of contact with this

1597
01:25:20,180 --> 01:25:16,140
one being by the name of Indrid cold and

1598
01:25:23,150 --> 01:25:20,190
Seth and his his movie has an interview

1599
01:25:26,750 --> 01:25:23,160
with woody derenberger 'he's a daughter

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01:25:28,940 --> 01:25:26,760
who says that Indrid cold to her when

1601
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:28,950
she was a young child growing up he

1602
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:30,930
would actually come into the house and

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01:25:39,410 --> 01:25:33,810
have dinner with them and as far as she

1604
01:25:42,140 --> 01:25:39,420
was concerned he was a very human in

1605
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:42,150
appearance perhaps had a little bit of

1606
01:25:49,610 --> 01:25:46,050
telepathic ability in fact she remarked

1607
01:25:52,490 --> 01:25:49,620
at woody seemed to pick up on some of

1608
01:25:55,730 --> 01:25:52,500
this telepathy because when his wife

1609
01:25:57,980 --> 01:25:55,740
would come home from doing errands he

1610
01:26:00,500 --> 01:25:57,990
was able to tell her exactly who she and

1611
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:00,510
Matt what she had bought before she took

1612
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:02,250
it you know put the bags on the table

1613
01:26:10,150 --> 01:26:05,600
and he seemed to have picked up some of

1614
01:26:14,030 --> 01:26:10,160
Indrid cold traits now was Indrid cold a

1615
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:14,040
really a spaceman was he an agent of

1616
01:26:20,060 --> 01:26:18,560
some psyops organization or some

1617
01:26:22,729 --> 01:26:20,070
paranormal

1618
01:26:26,510 --> 01:26:22,739
entity I don't know I mean this it's

1619
01:26:29,660 --> 01:26:26,520
open to debate but to those who did come

1620
01:26:32,209 --> 01:26:29,670
across them in conjunction with the

1621
01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:32,219
woody derenberger experiences or with

1622
01:26:38,450 --> 01:26:34,710
the Mothman sightings he seem to be

1623
01:26:41,089 --> 01:26:38,460
pretty much a flesh-and-blood but then

1624
01:26:43,939 --> 01:26:41,099
again he did have this supernatural

1625
01:26:46,399 --> 01:26:43,949
element to him remember item how John

1626
01:26:48,260 --> 01:26:46,409
keel claimed that he was hunkered down

1627
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:48,270
in that hotel there in Point Pleasant

1628
01:26:54,260 --> 01:26:51,210
and was getting phone calls from injured

1629
01:26:57,109 --> 01:26:54,270
called in the middle of the night right

1630
01:27:00,169 --> 01:26:57,119
now yeah well I just I find it

1631
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:00,179
interesting that here Woody's daughter I

1632
01:27:06,169 --> 01:27:02,730
mean you know she's you know she's not

1633
01:27:09,169 --> 01:27:06,179
she's not elderly but I mean she's got

1634
01:27:10,850 --> 01:27:09,179
no reason really to you know make up

1635
01:27:12,260 --> 01:27:10,860
make up this story I mean she's not

1636
01:27:18,319 --> 01:27:12,270
gonna make any money or anything like

1637
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:18,329
that yeah but I mean you know she she

1638
01:27:21,950 --> 01:27:20,130
just she just basically goes in there I

1639
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:21,960
mean tells it like she remembers it and

1640
01:27:28,879 --> 01:27:24,000
I mean yeah and I mean you know I made

1641
01:27:32,300 --> 01:27:28,889
so many contactees and they really had

1642
01:27:34,430 --> 01:27:32,310
no other witnesses yet yet here his dog

1643
01:27:36,500 --> 01:27:34,440
and Woody's daughter you know remembers

1644
01:27:38,660 --> 01:27:36,510
this clearly and even made the statement

1645
01:27:40,879 --> 01:27:38,670
that after her father died that the

1646
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:40,889
interred cold was at the funeral but

1647
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:42,690
nobody else knew it but she did

1648
01:27:46,459 --> 01:27:44,730
recognize that's correct

1649
01:27:50,930 --> 01:27:46,469
oh by the way we want to thank you

1650
01:27:55,129 --> 01:27:50,940
Jeremy for for calling in and we do hope

1651
01:27:58,220 --> 01:27:55,139
we answered his question as best we

1652
01:28:01,819 --> 01:27:58,230
could now we are at kind of cutting it

1653
01:28:05,540 --> 01:28:01,829
short it's the magic midnight hour here

1654
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:05,550
on the East Coast coming up and I do

1655
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:08,960
want to go around the the round table

1656
01:28:12,859 --> 01:28:11,010
well we don't really know if it's a

1657
01:28:15,859 --> 01:28:12,869
round table Tim is it a round table

1658
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:15,869
alright the coffee table coffee table

1659
01:28:20,899 --> 01:28:18,810
don't knock the beer over to it or I

1660
01:28:22,879 --> 01:28:20,909
actually somebody maybe some popcorn and

1661
01:28:26,270 --> 01:28:22,889
sent it over for the show tonight yeah

1662
01:28:30,169 --> 01:28:26,280
yeah yeah but I share it with all of you

1663
01:28:31,700 --> 01:28:30,179
but I've eaten almost all of it but I do

1664
01:28:33,620 --> 01:28:31,710
want to give our guests the opportunity

1665
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:33,630
to tell

1666
01:28:38,090 --> 01:28:35,280
our listeners where they can be reached

1667
01:28:40,190 --> 01:28:38,100
and what they are working on currently

1668
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:40,200
and what they might be working on in the

1669
01:28:46,250 --> 01:28:43,440
future so let's start with the tell us a

1670
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:46,260
little bit about how people can get in

1671
01:28:51,610 --> 01:28:47,970
touch with you and what's going on down

1672
01:28:54,410 --> 01:28:51,620
the road well well

1673
01:29:02,000 --> 01:28:54,420
anyone that wants to go to my website

1674
01:29:07,580 --> 01:29:02,010
it's a HTTP colon slash slash rep lures

1675
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:07,590
dot webs.com and u n-- spell repl you

1676
01:29:15,820 --> 01:29:11,040
are es rep lures that's basically all

1677
01:29:18,620 --> 01:29:15,830
they have to type into Google nowadays I

1678
01:29:21,460 --> 01:29:18,630
hold expeditions with only a couple

1679
01:29:24,830 --> 01:29:21,470
people at a time across the sacred bog

1680
01:29:27,050 --> 01:29:24,840
in this place is where I had different

1681
01:29:29,150 --> 01:29:27,060
experiences with both the physical and

1682
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:29,160
spirits and do other people have

1683
01:29:35,420 --> 01:29:31,650
experience as well oh yeah yeah yeah

1684
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:35,430
almost I'd say a 90% success rate

1685
01:29:40,220 --> 01:29:37,170
everyone that goes I've even had

1686
01:29:43,010 --> 01:29:40,230
skeptics go out there and they've left

1687
01:29:46,610 --> 01:29:43,020
scared well well tit Tim and I will be

1688
01:29:48,950 --> 01:29:46,620
putting on our swamp buggy boots and and

1689
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:48,960
and and joining you huh

1690
01:29:54,610 --> 01:29:51,840
Tim Tim could carry me on his shoulders

1691
01:29:58,610 --> 01:29:54,620
and we could just walk through the bog

1692
01:30:02,090 --> 01:29:58,620
together looking for the the creatures

1693
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:02,100
of the night and any of books and the

1694
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:06,930
works I don't know I am thinking on one

1695
01:30:09,530 --> 01:30:08,880
that's going more or less on herbal

1696
01:30:13,370 --> 01:30:09,540
healing

1697
01:30:15,440 --> 01:30:13,380
oh yes mo that yeah yeah yeah yeah you

1698
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:15,450
know I I once a traveled a couple of

1699
01:30:23,390 --> 01:30:20,570
times to Hawaii and came across a secret

1700
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:23,400
valley I guess you would say where there

1701
01:30:29,330 --> 01:30:25,170
are hundreds of different kinds of herbs

1702
01:30:32,440 --> 01:30:29,340
and all growing and I did list most of

1703
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:32,450
them in my Kahuna power book anyway it

1704
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:35,730
let us get to the our other guest here

1705
01:30:40,900 --> 01:30:37,410
and what would you what would you be

1706
01:30:44,780 --> 01:30:40,910
working on any anything in particular

1707
01:30:47,060 --> 01:30:44,790
well I think I want to be working on

1708
01:30:48,860 --> 01:30:47,070
Hertz because I believe that

1709
01:30:51,950 --> 01:30:48,870
through their ritual magic and so forth

1710
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:51,960
and so on the American Indian opened up

1711
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:55,050
a lot of portholes we had an incident

1712
01:31:00,440 --> 01:30:57,050
over here with our own temple that they

1713
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:00,450
they opened up portals and all kinds of

1714
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:03,090
things started shaking loose at that

1715
01:31:08,780 --> 01:31:05,810
address and eventually they left it but

1716
01:31:12,230 --> 01:31:08,790
apparently bad things or strange things

1717
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:12,240
were happening there so this desert

1718
01:31:18,470 --> 01:31:14,610
thing I want to continue to work on that

1719
01:31:20,510 --> 01:31:18,480
experiment on possibly seeing what

1720
01:31:21,730 --> 01:31:20,520
happens when I work with different

1721
01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:21,740
frequencies

1722
01:31:27,020 --> 01:31:24,480
well I'm sorry you faded out there when

1723
01:31:28,610 --> 01:31:27,030
you work with different I want to I want

1724
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:28,620
to try working with different

1725
01:31:33,620 --> 01:31:30,810
frequencies because I believe that the

1726
01:31:36,740 --> 01:31:33,630
American Indian opened up a bunch of

1727
01:31:39,140 --> 01:31:36,750
portholes when they were working is what

1728
01:31:42,110 --> 01:31:39,150
they were doing and we'd experienced

1729
01:31:44,150 --> 01:31:42,120
this at the temple we had one time to

1730
01:31:48,170 --> 01:31:44,160
because they opened up portals and they

1731
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:48,180
neglected to close them and then started

1732
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:50,730
happening as a result of that well so

1733
01:31:55,610 --> 01:31:53,250
you're saying though then we shouldn't

1734
01:31:58,760 --> 01:31:55,620
necessarily be overly frightened of

1735
01:32:02,600 --> 01:31:58,770
these different entities that some of

1736
01:32:07,550 --> 01:32:02,610
them are perhaps it could be beneficial

1737
01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:07,560
to us well I'm saying can be I mean look

1738
01:32:11,660 --> 01:32:09,450
at us in general I mean we can be

1739
01:32:13,820 --> 01:32:11,670
wonderful one day and the next day not

1740
01:32:16,670 --> 01:32:13,830
so wonderful well I'm always wonderful

1741
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:16,680
myself but go ahead I believe I believe

1742
01:32:23,330 --> 01:32:20,130
that that these barriers have been put

1743
01:32:27,050 --> 01:32:23,340
in place for a reason and they've been

1744
01:32:29,900 --> 01:32:27,060
opened and not everyone is ready for

1745
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:29,910
everything includes both sides well what

1746
01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:33,810
what what do they portend for the future

1747
01:32:39,350 --> 01:32:36,000
of a humankind

1748
01:32:42,860 --> 01:32:39,360
I'm sorry well what what what what do

1749
01:32:47,620 --> 01:32:42,870
they heart harp are do they harbinger

1750
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:47,630
something for the future of mankind I

1751
01:32:58,970 --> 01:32:50,250
mean is there a message they want to get

1752
01:33:00,620 --> 01:32:58,980
out or well I think I don't that's it

1753
01:33:05,030 --> 01:33:00,630
again it's a difficult question

1754
01:33:07,250 --> 01:33:05,040
ask because I'm concerned that humanity

1755
01:33:09,379 --> 01:33:07,260
has been dumbed down and is continuing

1756
01:33:11,149 --> 01:33:09,389
to be dumbed down just well that's why

1757
01:33:13,129 --> 01:33:11,159
we're thinking of going twice a week

1758
01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:13,139
that's why we're thinking of going it

1759
01:33:21,669 --> 01:33:15,510
twice a week with this program so that

1760
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:21,679
the I'm just really concerned that

1761
01:33:28,180 --> 01:33:25,650
humanity isn't what it used to be that

1762
01:33:31,370 --> 01:33:28,190
genetic manipulation is going on

1763
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:31,380
actually there are not six senses I

1764
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:34,170
spoke with someone that was asked when I

1765
01:33:39,050 --> 01:33:37,050
was taking biological psychology I do

1766
01:33:40,820 --> 01:33:39,060
believe that this man was a Nordic it

1767
01:33:44,390 --> 01:33:40,830
was unbelievable the events that

1768
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:44,400
followed he told us that we have over I

1769
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:46,050
can't remember the exact number but it

1770
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:50,130
was over 360 senses he relayed medical

1771
01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:52,290
information to me that no doctor has

1772
01:33:59,840 --> 01:33:56,639
ever been able to confirm this does this

1773
01:34:03,860 --> 01:33:59,850
does this a person or entity have a name

1774
01:34:07,189 --> 01:34:03,870
I I can't remember his name I remember

1775
01:34:09,290 --> 01:34:07,199
almost what he looks like I had him when

1776
01:34:14,750 --> 01:34:09,300
I was in junior college well if you have

1777
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:14,760
it if you have a picture or some artwork

1778
01:34:19,939 --> 01:34:17,370
or something send it along and remember

1779
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:19,949
we'll be up on YouTube with this program

1780
01:34:24,620 --> 01:34:22,650
very shortly and I guess we've come to

1781
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:24,630
the end of the program and I want to

1782
01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:27,210
thank both of our guests very

1783
01:34:31,459 --> 01:34:29,520
fascinating you Tim what you say topic I

1784
01:34:36,290 --> 01:34:31,469
mean something we really haven't delved

1785
01:34:39,410 --> 01:34:36,300
that much into before and I'm hoping

1786
01:34:43,250 --> 01:34:39,420
that we'll be able to tackle the

1787
01:34:47,209 --> 01:34:43,260
question of Bigfoot and cryptids are

1788
01:34:50,810 --> 01:34:47,219
they flesh and blood or are they a

1789
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:50,820
paranormal just like you and I am that's

1790
01:34:54,919 --> 01:34:53,010
right well thank you both for being with

1791
01:34:58,220 --> 01:34:54,929
us and we have to say good night now Tim

1792
01:35:00,590 --> 01:34:58,230
and good night at Deena and good night

1793
01:35:09,649 --> 01:35:00,600
Peter and good night Carol and Helen and

1794
01:35:16,469 --> 01:35:12,479
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1795
01:35:19,709 --> 01:35:16,479
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1796
01:35:22,620 --> 01:35:19,719
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1797
01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:22,630
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1798
01:35:28,979 --> 01:35:25,209
search of the truly bizarre and totally

1799
01:35:31,490 --> 01:35:28,989
unexplained with you as their code

1800
01:35:35,970 --> 01:35:31,500
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1801
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1802
01:35:39,660 --> 01:35:37,210
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1803
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:39,670
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1804
01:35:45,390 --> 01:35:42,730
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1805
01:35:48,570 --> 01:35:45,400
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1806
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